. >> that is against the law. that's against the law. i'm not breaking the law. john: you say the open bureaucrats just want the money and will get more money as they close charters because the state pays more to their lousy schools. but there is more to it than that. you, i'm sure, broke some of the rules. you did rent them property, you hired your wife, paid her money. you say to save money. maybe it's true, but you're breaking the bureaucracies royals. >> that's very interesting. my wife has paid her company which manages of the school's finances. she charges one pattern 50,000 for three schools. they're paying almost 300,000. yes i hired her. surely didn't save the school under and $50,000. john: you charge to a higher rent and pay its your company. >> adjusted dollar $0.9 a square foot. rental space in the city for a school is $2 to $2.50. a guard that. the problem, the whole thing is here, broke all these rules that they say i did, they say that ign steel. it has been going on for 12 years. i am not arrested. why didn't they arrest me and keep the school op